Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United World College East Africa
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Credit to Dotx3 for bringing the article up to snuff. (non-admin closure) Rollidan (talk) 22:46, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
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The article is only referenced to 2 primary sources and one that is an extremely trivial directory listing. When I did I WP:BEFORE I couldn't find anything that constituted in-depth, direct coverage either, just some extremely trivial name drops in more school directories and articles about other things. Nothing to justify the article though. Adamant1 (talk) 14:01, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:59, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:59, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:59, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- I agree that the article needs substantial improvement, but I would argue against deletion. This school was one of the first international schools in Africa and the first IB World School on the continent; It was where the International Baccalaureate's "Middle Years Program" was developed; and as a member of the United World Colleges group of schools is part of a notable and influential educational movement. I will endeavor to improve the article with more emphasis on these topics to highlight what is notable about it, and find sources/references to back them up to increase verifiability. Dotx3 (talk) 05:25, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- By all means if you can find multiple in-depth, secondary references to help this pass the notability requirements then cool. Notability isn't something "being the first whatever" or verifiability though. There has to be multiple, reliable, secondary, in-depth references discussing it. Personally I couldn't find any. Maybe you can though. --Adamant1 (talk) 15:11, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- I've taken a stab at re-writing the article with a whole bunch of new references (largely in academic literature), which hopefully does a better job of representing the notability of the school for an encyclopedic context (although, as always, further improvements can always be done!). Hoping this pushes the discussion clearly towards keep. Dotx3 (talk) 17:59, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. --Adamant1 (talk) 02:56, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
- I've taken a stab at re-writing the article with a whole bunch of new references (largely in academic literature), which hopefully does a better job of representing the notability of the school for an encyclopedic context (although, as always, further improvements can always be done!). Hoping this pushes the discussion clearly towards keep. Dotx3 (talk) 17:59, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
- By all means if you can find multiple in-depth, secondary references to help this pass the notability requirements then cool. Notability isn't something "being the first whatever" or verifiability though. There has to be multiple, reliable, secondary, in-depth references discussing it. Personally I couldn't find any. Maybe you can though. --Adamant1 (talk) 15:11, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- I agree that the article needs substantial improvement, but I would argue against deletion. This school was one of the first international schools in Africa and the first IB World School on the continent; It was where the International Baccalaureate's "Middle Years Program" was developed; and as a member of the United World Colleges group of schools is part of a notable and influential educational movement. I will endeavor to improve the article with more emphasis on these topics to highlight what is notable about it, and find sources/references to back them up to increase verifiability. Dotx3 (talk) 05:25, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 22:29, 18 January 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:07, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
Keep After improvement by Dotx3 this demonstrates compliance with WP:NORG. Sources since added significantly improved the article and show WP:SIGCOV Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:18, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per significant improvement. دَستخَط، اِفلاق (کَتھ باتھ) 08:29, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.